the other problem that happens is that when that happens wages, so you have a situation where countries like let america, eastern europe, on the one hand, we are not as productive as americans and they're wages are not as low as in china or india. the guys in the middle get squeezed. i was in south africa talking to the person in charge of education. you know, the blacks have been left behind. the blacks, as of now, 17 years of education. i said, well, what happens when they have to compete? willing to work a 20,000? she turned pale and said i don't even want to think about it. but the problems, the truth this, the productivity, some of the low-wage countries, that is created a very serious problems for the middle income countries and will continue to. >> i'm not sure i buy that argument, but i have a question.